This sub-section is reserved for those perhaps cruelly labeled "useful idiots" by their respective handlers -- those who don't seem to have much of a clue about what is really going on yet have been mysteriously numbered amongst the bona fide Black Lodge Aviarian Adepti (A:.A:.); perhaps as either a monument to their gullibility or a token of thanks for their past usefulness.
Condor (Bob Collins)
Bob has been a source of constant delight and amusement on some of
the saucerian newsgroups. Although he appears to prefer the flavour
of pseudo-scientism
which proliferates so promiscuously at
Club Saucer-Nut©, his Insightful Missives (like the ones
presented below) occasionally leak out to the profane and unwashed
masses of decidedly UNscientific deluded X-Files fans who
tend to congregate in the unet
ETH Little Grey Space Alien Section:
Subject: Re: What would extraterrestrials REALLY want from us?
From: Robert Collins <rcollins@roanoke.infi.net>
Date: 1997/10/11
Newsgroups:sci.astro,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.alien.visitors,sci.logic
OK...this is what i have seen. What ever it is worth. I saw a car from the future after a ufo flap at kessler afb in 1974. Apparrently it got there by way of a worm hole created using the force field discovered byt the philidelphia experiment. Any alien seeing this.. would see that we can go to their world...if I were them..I would want to learn all I could about such creatures who kill each other and could get to my world..
Subject: Oct 19th,'97 in Phoenix AZ
From: Robert Collins <figuro@sprintmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:39:27 +0000
Newsgroups:alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.ufo.reports
OCTOBER 19th, 1997................................
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Hawk-Headed Horus from Aleister Crowley's Ancient Egyptian "Stele of Revealing" |
Overhead I saw one of these birds as it turned into the sun and it look like something between an Eagle and a Falcon. Tom and I saw white on its wing tips. Then, three of those birds proceeded to circle us overhead for about 30 seconds making almost a perfect circle as they flew:
One picture did turn out but it was taken on 1000 speed film so resolution quality is not the greatest but it was identified as a Red Tailed Hawk, mature adult: Hawk in the Aviary was one of the key elements in developing the Bird Code that led to "The Bird Sanctuary" in 1995:
RMC '97
[Uh ... OK, Bob. Thanks for sharing all that... -B:.B:.]
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| Brother Jaime |
In any event, we found ourselves rather surprised to hear him announce at a fairly recent and relatively holy gathering of The MUFON Lodge -- apparently oblivious to the irony -- that he had been adopted by his Aviarian Brethren solely, as he tells it, "because we needed someone with media connections (subtext: to spread our memetic virus -B:.B:.)." As owner of some sort of obscure and unsuccessful Hollywoodian Film Production Company, he was apparently just what the doctor ordered.
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| Falconer Andrea Chen |
Doty, who is now with the New Mexico State Police, told us that he was investigated by the FBI in 1987, which would be very shortly after Moore first made the "Presidential Briefing Document" public. Obviously, Doty was a suspect. He took and passed a lie detector test, he says.
Doty is far from being a UFO skeptic. He believes that there was an MJ-12, perhaps under a different name, and that the information in the MJ-12 documents is generally true even if they are not authentic. Doty believes also that there were two UFO crashes in New Mexico in 1947, and that alien bodies were involved. He does not accept the two recent Air Force reports about the Roswell Incident, and as for Santilli's recent alien autopsy video, he feels that the film shows "non-humans but not aliens", whatever that means.
On the other hand, Doty does not believe in abductions. He says that he investigated 17 abduction cases in New Mexico around 1981, and found that they were all hoaxes, except for one case that impressed him somewhat favorably.
We did not ask Doty enough about his relationship with Bill Moore, and we have been trying to call him back for more information. He told us that he has known Moore since about 1980, but has been out of touch with him for several years. Originally, he was called upon to investigate Moore for the OSI. Moore later became a source or conduit, but was "terminated" as a source in 1986. Doty did not say why.
Rumor has it that, while in the Service, Doty got into trouble regarding other questionable documents - not just the MJ-12 series, and it is known that before the end of his enlistment, he was reassigned out of Intelligence into the commissary ( = food). As a New Mexico State Policeman, he seems to be doing well. We do hope to talk to him again...
From:
Saucer Smear, Vol. 44, No. 8
P.O. Box 1709, Key West, FL 33041
[non-scheduled newsletter of 09/01/97]
Editor and Supreme Commander James W. Moseley
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