and The Enochian Space Aliens
Clinical psychologist Dr. Mario Pazzaglini -- whose background
is in clinical psychology and neurophysiology with a specialty
in treating people who are severely mentally ill -- has recently
self-published a curious little book entitled Symbolic
Messages. The text discusses "received scripts" -- any form of
written communication that the human percipient alleges to have
originated with a non-human source. Methods of reception range
from channeled writings to symbols that were seen on or in
so-called extraterrestrial craft,
to simple, inexplicable desires to communicate something that seems
to come from outside of the receiver's frame of reference. One
purported alien script was translated, "If
you want to make light solid, show it to the moon."
Q: What other attitudes do people have when this ["alien" contact]
crops up in their lives?
Q: Do you see any connection between the UFO-human interaction,
your research, and occult practices (West and East)?
Q: Enochian?
A: Enochian ... and then it dictated some chants, and then an
entire system in this language. That system flourished while
Elizabeth the First was ruler, and in fact, a lot of English
history was probably influenced by this since Dee was using this
channel to not only get information, but to control events.
Q: How do you mean?
Q: And you can be sure they checked up on his background and
didn't find it objectionable enough to bother with.
A: And they knew he was Crowley's "chosen kid." It is weird all
the people who knew each other, and sometimes I think "Gee, I'll
just throw away all my history books!"
Q: "Everything You Know Is Wrong."
There's a thrill in the discovery of these things.
A: And there's a thread of that running through the Hollywood
community. Because [filmmaker] Kenneth Anger knows
Jacques Vallee.
They've known each other for a long time.
Q: What's that connection all about?
A: I don't really know. Vallee mentions in his latest book that he
knows the man. People I know who have asked him about Anger
say that he says nothing and won't talk about it. A magical
magazine called Green Egg dedicated a recent issue to Vallee.
I talked to Whitley Strieber once and asked him what was
going on about all this, and he said "If you really want to know,
read my book Cat Magic. That's where I tell the whole story." *
Q: So what did you find?
A: Well Cat Magic is about evocational magic. It's some sort of
a war between magicians. So that information seems to point to
the theory of UFOs that some gate has been opened and this is
basically a "leak." It's sort of the
space-time ripping theory. In other words, there's this
hole in space-time and these
things are getting through.
Q: Vallee actually hints at this over and over in his books --
he just couches it in scientific language.
A: He's being very careful, but he's saying the same thing. Actually,
a lot of people are saying it. John Keel does this.
The phenomena is bad because it doesn't just violate one or two
physical laws, it violates the whole deal. So you know it's
just bad. Something's really off. It's either very bogus -- a
lot of neural noise, or it's just
so far beyond our understanding that we have no concepts to
wrap around it to get a handle on it. If that were true, then
the space-time holes idea might just be what it would look like.
In fact, that's just what my great-grandmother told me. "These
things are not from here. They come through here, and you have
to be careful. You can use them, but just be careful." The
things we were taught about were called foletti. The root of
that word is the Latin word folis, which means "whirlwind."
They speak of little creatures about two to three feet high
that inhabit this "other world." And they do things: they abduct
people, they play tricks, they're very sexual --
they like to fiddle with people sexually, and this begins to
sound like Jacques Vallee.
Q: And Keel, and Mack, and more recently
Gregory Little, author of Grand
Illusions.
[...]
A: If you look at John Dee and that kind of stuff, this information,
put in the right place at the right time, has a great influence
on the flow of human history. I think gradually everyone's
waking up, and it has an effect at
that level.
Excerpt from:
"Alien Writing: An Interview With Mario Pazzaglini, Ph.D."
* = In the interests of both Fairness and
Responsible Journalism, we thought it only fair to post this
rebuttal by the Whitster:
Return-Path: whitley@strieber.com
If it is of any interest, I did not say this.
Whitley Strieber
"I talked to Whitley Strieber
once and asked him what was going on about all this, and he said
"If you really want to know, read my book Cat Magic. That's where
I tell the whole story...it's about
evocational magic. It's some sort of a war between magicians."
-Mario Pazzaglini, Ph.D.*
A: There's another group that feel that it's a very important
part of themselves, and they've made contact with ... Well, in
religions, there are the
path of knowledge, the path of belief,
and the path of experience. This is the path of experience
because the other two are not working. Our religious constructs
are cracking, and as people try to find the historical Jesus and
the temple of Solomon, and so forth, when you concretize
religion like that, for a lot of people it destroys the belief.
Also, as Christianity gets watered down and fundamentalized,
people begin to lose that awe that kept them entranced and in
contact. So what they do is slip into other experiences. They
personally experience something that feels bigger than them, and
like it knows more than them, and that's very important. So
they really hang on to it.
A: For the western, the answer is definitely yes. Elizabeth the
First had a court astrologer called
John Dee. He, along with Edward Kelly was in
contact with some sort of spirit being -- I have a copy of the
manuscript, actually -- and this being did a number of things:
it dictated an alphabet to them...
Dr. John Dee
Enochian Mage
:. Liber AEmeth sive Sigillum Dei :.
Tahaoelog
Air Tablet
Thahebyobeaatanun
Water Tablet
Thahaaothe
Earth Tablet
Ohooohaatan
Fire Tablet
A: Well, for instance she could say "John, the Spanish Armada
blah, blah, blah ...and what do you think? Can you help? Can
we arrange the forces in such a way that we have an advantage?"
and he would do that -- it was his job. So he'd tell her what
days to do it, but not using only astrology, but these "tablets"
that the "angel" dictated as well. So this goes into the
Ashmolean museum in England and is used by a series of
occult societies, until it really
surfaces again in about 1870 with MacGregor Mathers and
Wynn Wescott, and they develop the
Golden Dawn using this system.
Aleister Crowley then takes this system and uses it
for a series of things he calls
"workings" beginning in 1911. Along the way, he contacts
Aiwass and another entity called
Lam ... he looks just like one of the alien "greys" with
an eye disorder. Smaller eyes. Crowley continues these
"workings" until the last one in 1946, which was done by
Jack Parsons. It's funny,
because the OTO [Aleister
Crowley's Ordo
Templi Orientis organization] and other groups keep popping
up all over the place. The private lives of these people would
make Dynasty look like Mickey Mouse! Parsons is working at the
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and the government has hired an
arch magician to do ultra-sensitive work.
Facilitated by Greg Bishop
for The Excluded Middle #6
P.O.B. 1077, Los Angeles, CA 90048 USA
From: Whitley Strieber whitley@strieber.com
Date: Thu May 08 21:38:21 1997
To: density4@cts.com
Subject: Re: ::: Dr. Pazzaglini and the Enochian Space Aliens :::
"I talked to Whitley Strieber once and asked him what was going
on about all this, and he said "If you really want to know,
read my book Cat Magic. That's where I tell the whole story...
it's about evocational magic. It's some sort of a war between
magicians."
-Mario Pazzaglini, Ph.D.
